@Keith
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Mis à part leur enseigner leur langue, je ne vois vraiment pas ce qui dérange là dedans. Faut arrêter de toujours chercher le détail qui fâche dans une série qui selon certains n'aurait aucune profondeur...
Merci de relire ta citation
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"Without language even. But we can give them that. I mean, we can give them the best part of ourselves."
Déjà tu occultes ce que j'ai mis ici en gras.
Je mets la citation en VF et en entier :
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Qui n'ont même pas de langage.
On peut leur transmettre.
On peut leur transmettre...ce qu'on a de meilleur. Mais pas les bagages.
Ni vaisseaux, ni équipement, ni technologie, ni armes.
Si on a une leçon à retenir, c'est que nos cerveaux ont toujours surpassé nos coeurs.
La science nous fait avancer, mais nos âmes... restent en arrière.
Si pour toi ce qu'on a de meilleur veut dire le langage c'est qu'il y a un problème...
Ici il parle bien de valeurs morales et même de religiosité. Et on nous met une couche de technophobie. C'est bien l'idée d'imposer nos idées à "ces sauvages".
@ ceux voulant lire quelques articles et interviews (Revue de presse de Sunjin) :
Une petite revue de presse sur ce finale, polémique donc et quelques éléments supplémentaires donnés par RD Moore
- Interview de RD Moore :
http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/03/batt...ld-d-moore.html
EXtrait, avec la vision de la fin de la série par ED Olmos (bill Adama)
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RDM a écrit:
I didn't want to end the series like "Beneath the Planet of the Apes," with the destruction of everybody. Although that's what Eddie wanted to do. Eddie kept pitching me that they come to Earth in contemporary times, and everyone's cheering and happy, and cut to the White House and the President goes, "Nuke 'em!" And they destroy Galactica -- cut to credits. And people say I'm dark!
Autre extrait avec une explication du pourquoi/Boomer/Athena/Helo
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I'm curious about a few characters' final fates. You very easily could have gotten away with Helo sacrificing his life so Athena could go after Hera, but they got the happy ending in the end.
RDM / There were two things. One, originally when we were breaking the story, Athena and Helo were both going to die to save Hera. And then I felt sort of unsatisfied about that. I really wanted that family unit to survive to the end. So in the script, when Helo gets shot in the corridor and he's left, I didn't intend it to be a cliffhanger of "is he going to die?" I just kept writing it, and there wasn't a moment to establish he was okay. And when Tahmoh read the script, he got that point and said, "Oh, (bleep), I'm dead." And when he got to the end, he was surprised.
And then it becomes this tearjerking moment when you see the three of them off in the distance (on Africa) and you realize he survived and they're intact.
rdm : And when Tahmoh had that reaction, I decided, "Well, now I definitely don't want to establish that he's okay," because I wanted people to have that same reaction.
- une seconde interview de Dieu RD Moore " Ronald D. Moore on the Meaning of God in Battlestar Galactica's Finale"
http://blogs.amctv.com/scifi-scanner/2009/...interview-2.php
Où pour moi le père Moore ne sait pas où il va... et ne savait définitivement pas comment finir sa série... S'il boit, qu'il arrête...
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Q: The series ends explaining a lot of the mysteries with the existence of a supreme being. Does that reflect your own beliefs?
RDM: I would say the show is reflective of my religious views in that I don't have really firm religious views. I'm an agnostic in the truest sense of the word. I think about these things -- I grew up Roman Catholic, I've been interested in Hinduism, in Eastern religions, but I'm not dedicated to anything -- I go through periods where I think maybe it's all nonsense; maybe it's the Matrix...I'm open to various ideas. And I think the show has been a lot about exploration of ideas, and the basis of faith and how can you come at it: one God, many gods, no gods, who knows.
- une dernière interview pour io9.com avec la fin iniatlement prévue pour la série :
http://io9.com/5180872/the-battlestar-gala...kyline=true&s=x
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What about the endings that you brainstormed that didn't get made for BSG? Can you talk about those at all?
There was a different ending that we had, it was all about Ellen aboard the Colony. She was sort of turned by Cavil, because she found out that Tigh had impregnated Caprica Six, and that deeply embittered her. And she sort of became dedicated to the idea of destroying Galactica and the fleet out of revenge. And [she and Cavil] got Hera, and then the final confrontation became very personalized between Tigh versus Ellen, and should they forgive.
That was the story, generally speaking. We didn't have a lot more than just what I spun out to you, when the writer's strike hit. Over the course of the writer's strike, I rethought about it and thought, "That's not going to do it. It's not epic enough. It's not interesting enough." That's when we decided to start over, and reinvent the last arc of the show.
et on y découvre quel le personnage préféré de RDM, au hasard et sans surprise vu ce finale :
Gaius Baltar...
- La review de io9.com " As Battlestar Ends, God Is In the Details"
http://io9.com/5178522/as-battlestar-ends-...kyline=true&s=x
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Battlestar Galactica concluded with a moving, pyrotechnic two-hour finale last night, wrapping up its central storyline in a way that offered closure - but only via a turn to spiritualism and anti-scientific sentiment.
[...]Battlestar Galactica concluded with a moving, pyrotechnic two-hour finale last night, wrapping up its central storyline in a way that offered closure - but only via a turn to spiritualism and anti-scientific sentiment. [...]Things get even weirder when Lee is talking to Kara about what they'll do next, and she says "I've completed my journey," and then just disappears. So she was definitely an angel, albeit one who could carry a gun and kill people. There is no rational explanation for her at all.
- "Deus Ex Machina: The Divine, The Infernal, and The Mundane on the Series Finale of "Battlestar Galactica" - Une review, gentille, mais critique :
http://www.televisionaryblog.com/2009/03/d...fernal-and.html
- Une autre review signé Tim Goodman sur SFgate "
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/tgoodm...&entry_id=37309
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No matter what you take away from "BSG," what fueled your interest over four seasons, which characters or traits were the ones that sucked you in the most, creator Ronald D. Moore was decisive on these issues: 1. A god, or higher power, and angels of a divine nature, influence the world we live in. 2. Technology, particularly the technology of machines, is not the answer. While stopping short of preaching the "machines are bad" mantra, there was an overarching theme about allowing technology to bring mankind beyond an appreciation of life's inherent shortness, its flawed limitations.
These issues were always in play - and "BSG" always got critical credit for tackling them when most writers wouldn't go near it, other than in some darkly metaphorical way. But to have many of the key final twists and explanations come down to what can best be described as divine intervention was, for me, very much unexpected. Stunning, even.
Merci Sunjin pour les liens 